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OdgovorNapisal/-a Goti dne To Nov 14, 2006 1:03 pm

Če prav razumem, lahko s kosom žice in eno žarnico aktiviraš opozorilno lučko za motorno elektroniko. Valjo je zadevo povzel na team-audi.si. Zadeva najbrž deluje tudi na navadni osemdesetki (in tudi stotki).

Glede na enostavnost posega, se bom ob prvi priložnosti lotil zadeve.

Na http://www.s2central.net/inst_clust_mil.html so naslednja navodila:

Instrument Cluster - MIL Circuit

Tools Required :
Cross-headed screwdriver
Long thin 'terminal' screwdriver
Miniature screwdriver or probe
Soldering Iron, Wire strippers, cutters & Pliers
8mm socket & driver
An optional multimeter can be handy !

Time Required :
About 1-2 hours, depending on electrical skills

Parts Required :
2W inst bulb (green) 893 919 040A
1m length of cable (0.5mm2)
Splice or Spade connectors - your choice
Small tie-wraps and/or insulating tape

WARNING !
It is not absolutely necessary to disconnect the battery before doing this job as all the relevant connectors have female plugs, but it is better to be safe than sorry with all electrical tasks and the negative lead at the battery should be disconnected if you are in any doubt about proceeding further.

What is the MIL circuit ?
It is a little known fact that Audi 80 & Coupes exported to the USA had to comply with Californian legislation which dictated that the driver had to be informed of certain (emission related) engine fault conditions by means of a warning lamp. This is known as the Malfunction Indicator Lamp - or MIL for short.

The MIL circuit is not fully wired up on Audi 80s & Coupes that were not destined for California, but I have discovered how to activate this function on the S2 after many hours of 'reverse engineering' the instrument cluster and probing round the wiring loom.

Why should I be interested in a MIL circuit ?
The MIL circuit is connected to the blue coloured OBD plug that is fitted to the car which is ultimately controlled by the ECU. This same blue (MIL) plug can be used to retrieve fault / blink codes from the ECU.

All of this means that, by adding a MIL circuit onto the S2 cluster, there would be no need for messing about with LEDs and test lamps to pull fault codes . But more importantly, the MIL circuit will inform the S2 driver of many active fault conditions that the ECU can detect whilst the engine is running. It does this by illuminating the MIL until the fault clears. Any faults are stored in the ECU and can then be blinked out on the MIL as soon as it is convenient to do so.

The cost of adding the MIL circuit is very low indeed - needing only a single instrument bulb, a short section of narrow guage cable and a connector or two.

NOTE - The MIL circuitry does not flash out the blink codes until the blink code sequence is activated as normal. This prevents driver distraction.

How do I wire up the MIL circuit in my S2 ?

The following gives a fairly detailed description, in three parts, as to how the MIL circuit can be activated on the S2. I have proved it out on my 94 ABY but it has also been proven out on a 3B. It is very simple electrics requiring a single wire be added to the loom and a new bulb be added to the instrument cluster in an unused location. Some soldering skills are needed along with basic electrical tools.

Some links below are to related pages on this site, others link to decent sized JPG photos. There are also some embedded images in this page where necessary.

PART 1 - Preparing the Loom

1. Firstly, remove the instrument cluster as described here , and set it to one side in a safe place to prevent damage until Part 2 below.
2. Locate the yellow coloured 26-pin connector (T26) behind the instrument cluster and snip off the tie-wrap which secures the wiring to the connector shell. Be extra careful to only snip the tie wrap !
3. Using a miniature screwdriver (or a fine tipped probe), tease apart the hood from this yellow connector and slide it off to expose the electrical wiring and connection pins as shown in this photo .
4. Locate pin 24 (twenty four) on the yellow connector. The connector moulding is numbered to assist with this task - it is two from the end as shown in this photo . Pin 24 is an unused connection point, so there should be no wire attached to this pin - until these tasks are complete. If your car is an MY95 vehicle, fitted with the factory immobiliser, then this connection point must NOT be used. Click here for more details and an alternate lamp location.
5. Again using the miniature screwdriver (or probe), GENTLY disengage the locking tab for pin 24 and remove it from the yellow connector, as shown here .
6. A special crimping tool is specified for these pins, which none of us will likely have access to, so I recommend that a soldering iron is used to connect a 1m length of multicore (0.5mm 2 diameter) cable onto this pin. If you choose cable which is too thick then this will be difficult and the pin may not fit back into the connector.
7. Carefully return the locking tab of the connector pin (with new wire attached) to its original position and slide it back into position 24 (twenty four) of the yellow cluster connector. It will lock itself into place.
8. Reassemble the yellow connector hood, taking care not to snag any cables and attach a new tie wrap onto the connector hood when finished. With this new length of wire dangling from the yellow cluster connector the fiddliest task is complete.


PART 2 - Preparing the Cluster

9. Now the attention turns to the instrument cluster... With the cluster lying face down on a soft surface, remove the sticky cover for the unused 'CAT' warning lamp as shown in this photo and fit the green 2W lamp in this location. At this point it is worth noting that the early cars have an unused yellow warning symbol that resembles a steering wheel in deference to the 'CAT' legend on later cars. Dunno why - but I'm 100% sure that this is the correct lamp location for the MIL bulb on Californian cars. This link lists the different warning lamp legends applicable to the S2. Please note that if you have an MY95 S2 (S chassis) with the factory fitted immobiliser - you will have to work with the unised lamp location above the 'CAT' lamp. More details here.
10. Reconnect all of the electrical plugs back into the instrument cluster as normal.
11. At this point, you may wish to test the newly installed cable and CAT lamp. Do this by turning on the ignition and then touching the other end of the new wire to the chassis (0V). The red CAT lamp will only be lit whilst this circuit to 0V/earth is closed.
12. Temporarily loop or tuck the new section of wire in behind the instrument cluster which can then be refitted as normal.


PART 3 - Completing the MIL Circuit

13. Now working in the driver side footwell, use an 8mm socket to remove the four bolts which secure the parcel shelf to the dashboard. Three bolts are on the top edge, and the fourth is down near the bonnet release.
14. Slide the parcel tray carefully out of the plastic clip at the pedals. If your car has diagnostic plugs in the drivers parcel shelf (early 3B only) then you may wish to unclip them, so that the tray can be moved out of the way for the next tasks. Try not to panic when you see the mad rampant mess of spaghetti cabling which is lurking under the dash. Fortunately, the access you need is very easy.
15. Locate the new loop of cable which connects to the yellow cluster plug from Part 2. Unloop it, then tie-wrap and/or tape it along the existing loom from the cluster such that it makes a sensible route to the black 5-pin connector (known as T5) shown in this photo . This is where it will connect to the 'blink output' driver from the ECU. Leave enough slack cable to work with for the new connection point.
16. Looking at the T5 connector, you will see a gray/brown (gr/br) coloured wire on the pedal side of the connector which is unterminated. On the ABY engine this corresponds to pin 4 (four) on the T5 plug, but it is pin 3 (three) on the 3B engine (thanks to Steve Henson for confirming that). This is the wire needed to drive the MIL function. As a double-check, you can perform a continuity test with a multimeter from this wire to the BLUE diagnostic plug on your car. The reading should be a short circuit (0 Ω) confirming that you have located the correct wire !
17. Trim and connect the new wire from the cluster to this gray/brown wire on T5. An ideal connection would be with a crimped pin that inserts into the empty receptacle of T5 but such connector pins and crimp tools are very hard to find. Other ways to make the connection are with insulated male & female spade terminals or with a 'scotchlok' style connector. The latter has the advantage of not needing to cut into the gray/brown wire and fiddle about with wire strippers and crimpers etc. Either way, make a secure connection and ensure all the wiring is neatly and safely taped or tied into the factory loom.

Now turn on the ignition and look with awe and amazement at the newly illuminated 'CAT' lamp which serves as a wonderful Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL).

MIL ON

Some brief notes on MIL operation -

* When the engine is started the CAT lamp will extinguish.

* It will only illuminate with the engine running when there is an active fault detected by the ECU.

* Additionally, the MIL circuit can be used to view blink codes whenever required. Simply follow the directions in this page but forget fiddling with the LED or test lamp at the blue connector.

* Finally, when the ECU is communicating with VAG-COM (or VAG1551) in basic settings mode the MIL circuit is activated. This will undoubtably raise an eyebrow at your local VAG dealership ;-)
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Goti dne To Nov 14, 2006 2:08 pm

Tu pa so še kode, ki jih lahko razberemo iz zgoraj opisane opozorilke:
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Master Blink Code List

4 Digit Blink Codes:

The following list has been compiled from many blink code tables and lists most of the malfunctions which can be displayed from Electronic Control Units. These blink codes can be displayed using Scan Tools, LED testers, or the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) on the instrument panel. Scan Tools such as the VAG 1551 or the VAG 1552 will also display a DTC or Diagnostic Trouble Code. I've listed some 5 digit codes. These are DTC codes read with the scan tools.

See section on Fault Code Reading. (Under Construction)

There are more blink codes in this list than your individual computer knows about. If a 4 Digit Blink Code comes up with your testing check this list for possible faults, don't worry about the blink codes that are listed but don't come up as possible faults.

0000

No malfunction recognized

Indicated by one pulse of the light every 15 seconds or so

If there is a malfunction or complaint; the malfunction fault is not recognized by On Board Diagnostics

End of Diagnostic Output

1111

Engine Control Module (ECM/ECU)

Transmission Control Module (TCM)

Electrical interferences from outside sources

ECU is malfunctioning

Poor ground connections to the computer

Defective memory circuits in the control unit

Bad checksum in computer chip from a tuner or a tuner?s scrambler

1113

Transmission Solenoid Valve 1

1121

Transmission Solenoid Valve 2

1123

Transmission Solenoid Valve 3

1124

Transmission Mechanical/Hydraulic fault

Defective clutch or valve body

1131

Transmission Solenoid Valve 4

1133

Transmission Solenoid Valve 5

1141

Transmission Solenoid Valve 6

1143

Transmission Solenoid Valve 7

1231

Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) (G 68)

No change in signal or mechanical malfunction

Open circuit or short circuit from vehicle speed sensor

1314

Multi-Function Switch (F 125)

1323

Kickdown switch (F 8)

1332

Trans-program switch (E 122)

1333

Transmission oil temp sender (G93)

2111

Engine speed sensor (G 28)

No change in signal or mechanical malfunction

Mounting base of G28 loose

Distance from G28 to ring gear greater than 3/64 inch

Broken teeth on flywheel ring gear

G28 RPM sensor malfunctioning

Open or short circuit

Defective sensor & cables, metal fragments on flywheel teeth

Debris on G28

Connector on G28 swapped with connector on G4.

ECM malfunctioning

2112

Crankshaft Position Sensor (CKP) (G 4)

No change in signal or mechanical malfunction

Sensor is not detecting flywheel pin

Flywheel pin damaged or missing,

Sensor in not installed correctly

Distributor hall sensor out of adjustment

2113

Camshaft Position Sensor (G 40)

No change in signal

Open circuit or short circuit to positive

Signal to positive

Short circuit to ground

Signal to ground

Mechanical malfunction, hall sender defective

Faulty basic setting, or distributor alignment

Cambelt has jumped a tooth

If 1551/1552 Shows sporadic disregard

2114

Hall Sensor (G 40)

Hall sensor not at reference mark

2121

Closed throttle position switch (CTP) (F 60)

Usually Part of Idle/Full Throttle Switch Assembly

Throttle body sticking

Floor mat presses on accelerator pedal

Throttle cable adjustment

Switch stuck open or closed

Internal solder connections poor or broken or contacts contaminated

Wiring broken or shorted

Moisture in throttle body connector

2122

Engine speed signal missing

2123

Full Throttle Switch

Part of Idle/Full Throttle Switch Assembly

Switch stuck open or closed

Internal solder connections poor or broken or contacts contaminated

Wiring broken or shorted

2131

Brake Light Switch

Open circuit

2141

First Knock Regulation (00535)

Second Knock Regulation (00536)

00577 Cyl 1

00578 Cyl 2

No change in signal

Maximum control limit exceeded

ECU cannot control excessive knock

Timing has been retarded to maximum

Low boost on 20V

Excessive boost, Fuel octane too low, Compression to high

2142

Knock Sensor (KS) #1 (G 61)

Open or short circuit, Defective sensor

Check sensor and wiring

Symptom: Timing retarded, High fuel consumption, power loss, Boost pressure not attained

2143

Dual knock sensor engines

Knock sensor II

00579 Cyl 3

00580 Cyl 4

00581 Cyl 5

00582 Cyl 6

#2, (Cylinders 3, 4, 5)

Excessive knock, timing is being retarded by maximum amount 7.8 degrees.

Fuel octane too low, Excessive Compression, excessive boost

2144

Knock Sensor (KS) II (G 66)

Open or short circuit,

Defective sensor or wiring

Symptom: Timing retarded, High fuel consumption, power loss, Boost pressure not attained

2212

Throttle Position (TP) Sensor (G 69)

Open circuit short to positive in sensor

Short to ground in sensor or wires between sensor and computer

Signal outside tolerance range

Signal too high from computer malfunction

Signal too low from dampness and/or corrosion at sensor connector

Impossible signal

2214

RPM exceeds maximum programmed

Engine has exceeded rev limit due to improper shifting

Example 7440 on AAN & 3B engines or 6793 for ABH engine

2221

Manifold Pressure Sensing

Hose to ECU detached, leaking, pinched, or plugged

Pressure is too low, too high, or not correct for mass of air metered.

Symptom: Loss of Power

2222

Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor (G 71)

Located in the ECU

Hose between intake manifold and ECM open, pinched, plugged or bent

Fluid separator in the hose between manifold and ECM full of fluid

Wastegate valve malfunctioning

Wastegate frequency valve malfunctioning

Pressure sensor in the ECM is malfunctioning

Turbocharger in malfunctioning

Repair or replace ECU

2223

Barometric Pressure Sensor ( F 96)

2224

Over boost condition (1989-91 200TQ, 1989-91 200T)

UK MB engine.

Boost pressure exceeded 1.6 bar for MC, 1.8 bar for MB

Waste gate or pressure hose, Waste Gate Solenoid/hose problem

2231

Idle speed regulation

Idle Air Control valve (N 71) binds when closed

Mass Air Flow Sensor (G 70) offset

Resistance at terminal connector of (N 71)

Idle Air Control valve (N 71) binds when open

Air leak between Mass Air Flow Sensor (G 70) and Idle Air Control valve (N 71)

2234

Supply voltage to ECM

Greater than 16 volts

Lower than 6 volts

Defective battery

Battery discharged

Alternator malfunctioning

Engine was started with two batteries in series

Poor Ground for ECM

Current drain with ignition off

2242

CO Fuel Trim Potentiometer (G74)

2312

Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Sensor (G 62)

Open circuit to ECM

Short to ground

Moisture in (G 62) connector

Resistance between sensor and ECM

Malfunctioning sensor

(G 62) input circuit in ECM malfunctioning

Symptom: Cold starting difficulties at low temperatures, Poor idle and acceleration during warm up

2314

Engine/Transmission electrical connection

Signal to negative

Open circuit

Short between valve wires

2322

Inlet Air Temp (IAT) Sensor (G 42)

Short circuit to ground

Open circuit between (G 42) and ECM

Malfunctioning sensor

(G 42) input circuit in ECM malfunctioning

Symptom: Slight power loss, Increase in fuel consumption

2324

Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor (G 70)

Signal too low

Signal too high

Engine Control Module (ECM) defective

2341

Heated Oxygen Sensor (OS2) (G 39)

Maximum control limit exceeded

Fuel tank less than 2.5 gallons reducing fuel pressure

2342

Heated Oxygen Sensor

Defective Sensor or Wiring to sensor defective

Resistance Heater in probe faulty

Symptom: Emissions not within specifications

2411

EGR Temperature Sensor (00585)

Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) (00586)

2413

Mixture Adaptation

Exceeded or Undershot adaptation limit (multiplicative)

Exceeded or Undershot adaptation limit (additive)

4312

Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve (N 18)

4314

Selector lever lock solenoid (N 110)

4332

Ignition output

00609 output 1

00610 output 2

00611 output 3

4333

Intake Manifold Changeover Valve (N156)

4343

Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Valve (N 80)

Signal to positive

Signal to negative

4434

Oxygen Sensor probe heating

4411

Fuel Injector Cyl 1 or 1 & 5

4412

Fuel Injector Cyl 2 or 2 & 7

4413

Fuel Injector Cyl 3 or 3 & 6

4414

Fuel Injector Cyl 4 or 4 & 8

4421

Fuel Injector Cyl 5

4422

Fuel Injector Cyl 6

4431

Idle Air Control (IAC) valve (N71)

Air leak in intake air system

2nd stage of Throttle Body does not close

4442

Wastegate Bypass Regulator Valve (N 75)

4444

No Faults have been recorded in the ECU's memory.

This does not mean that there may not be a problem

Just that the computer is unaware of the problem.
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OdgovorNapisal/-a kr3mn1 Van den BOSCH dne To Nov 14, 2006 11:04 pm

to sam na 5 cilindrci dela.
rad tepem majhne otroke in Ĺženske z velikimi dojkami


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OdgovorNapisal/-a Pozer dne To Nov 14, 2006 11:57 pm

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OdgovorNapisal/-a Goti dne Sr Nov 15, 2006 1:47 am

Hm, če maš OBD, bi moralo delat, a ne? Če so pa na ameriškem trgu imeli vsi? Pa tudi če samo opozori, da je karkoli narobe, se splača. Valjo pravi, da meni mora delat.

Si siguren, to o 5-cilindrcah?
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OdgovorNapisal/-a Goti dne To Nov 28, 2006 1:10 am

hm ... kr neki. En plavi konektor pogrešam, drgač pa vse štima. ;)
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