Napisal/-a fritz dne Če Avg 02, 2007 1:24 am
da malo razclenimo stvari. kaksno vlogo ima amortizer, kaksno vlogo ima vzmet vsi vemo. zakaj standard oz. prva vgradnja toliko zdrzi? najbrz zato ker je zadeva umerjena, vsklajena, sinhronizirana al kar ze pac hocete.
frekvenca pobiranja gor dol mora biti ista. v bistvu mora delovati kot celota.
pa menda ja kdo ne misli, da priznane firme narocajo amortizerje kar na tone pa jih potem dajo tja kjer jih trenutno rabijo?
kaj narediti na xx golfu za v sluzbo?
ce ze ma "gti" suste je enostavno; zamenjas amortizerje in je. najcenejse, najbolj varno, in najbolj komot. katere? to je pa stvar denarnice.
osebno bi se odlocil za al-ko. cenovno ugodni, ker niso svetovno zvenece ime. ampak: tako razmisljanje sodi v laicne pimp2f2f my ride vrste.
zakaj? zato ker al-ko vgrajuje kw vsvoje gewinde.
druga cenovno drazja moznost je kombinacija sust tam nekje do 40, ki ne potrebujejo amortizerjev s krajso batnico, in enimi visje cenovnimi plinskimi amortizerji.
tretja moznost je nabava kvalitetnih gewind, kar je po moje preseravanje, ker ne potrebujem shownsajn stvari, pa ko jih enkrat nastavim je konec veselja. v cem je potem razlika z zgoraj omenjeno drugo varjanto razen v krat x faktor vecji ceni?
to, koliko ljudi je sposobno izkoristit kar sklop amortizer-susta nudi, je pa cisto ena navadna velika buca. tudi semperitka je cisto ok guma, pa bi vsi meli na avtu malo bolj zvenece ime. meni je rapidex na corradotu cisto v redu sluzil dokler mi enkrat v ovinku ni spodvilo bocnice. od takrat mam na avtu zmeraj gume en razred vise od moje voznje. zakaj? ker bom vedel, da lahko vozim en razred vise ko si bom zazelel in bo takrat tudi stik z realnostjo temu primeren.
nakup cungalunga gewind je potrata denarja in je roko na srce vprvi vrsti samo pripomocek za vizuelni izgled vozila. stokrat boljse stock original g60 suste z enimi boljsimi normalnimi amortizerji. in ne mi zdaj zavijat z ocmi kot v enem zgornjem postu.... ker me to tako razpizdi, glede na to da sem zamenjal 32 avtov. vem kaj je in kaj ni. vem kako se obnasa koni, vem kako se obnasa eibach in vem kako se obnasa h&r cupkit, ki je mimogrede stal krepko cez 2500 dem. in se je po 155 tkm obnasal se zmeraj kot prvi dan.
kaj kdo da na avto me prav boli kurac, me pa vedno zaskrbi za lastno varnost, ko mi kaksen pantalon priskaklja okoli ovinka kot pinkponkzogca, ker ma gor stvari za na pisto, kjer je najvecje ravninsko odstopanje 3 mm kamencek. wob je lepo naisal : s pravilno nastavitvijo amprtizerjev smo pridobili x sekund. ni vse za vsakogar in za povsod.
zdaj me pa lahko tudi skurcate in kaj vem se kaj. rdece je rdece zeleno je zeleno. mix je pa barva ene velike merde.
o obnovljenih amortizerjih imam pa itak odklonilno mnenje in to je ze druga debata.
pa se povzetek ene debate o gewindah:
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I plumped for a set of syncro FK's for the Rallye 18mths ago to replace the worn out standard suspension. Worst thing I could have done. The ride does not inspire confidence especially on twisty roads or anything that isn't pancake flat. In fact, it can be dangerous at times with each corner of the car doing something different. Only when the car has 4 people, luggage and full petrol tank does it settle down. Some of this may be down to worn suspension bushes but it's KW's for me next time
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My mate fitted these on his with similar results! I dont rate them at all. Don't know why they are so bad?!
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I had FK Highsports on my old mk2. I found the same to be true as above, the car would skip going through bumpy corners, the ride was very bad etc etc.
Now have the variant 3's on my Rallye and have never looked back!
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I fitted fk konigsports to mine to replace the worn out set of mix and match coilovers that were fitted when I got it, and although they were slightly better they were still awfull, I think the problem is that there is just no were near enough downward travel and the car was bloody dangerous on any thing that wasn't perfectly smooth. luckely enough I came across a compleat std set up on ebay not long back, best thing I've done to the car yet, its now a pleasure to drive.
my advice would be stick to std volkswagen knew what they were doing.
that said i've got a set of low milage konigsports going cheap now!
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I bought a FK Konigsport setup for my G60 Syncro and spend a year pulling my hair out. The spring rate was too high and the length too short plus the drop was not enough. It banged and crashed on anything but flat. However the FK Highsport X kit thats on my new Rallye has loads on drop and the spring is not as compressed as much as the old kit so the spring and damper are matched better. Only done 4 miles though.
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well just my views
...i also have found most coilovers ( spax ,avo,and fk ) to choppy and hard unless its flat as flat can be ........on my syncro i have got H + R coil overs all round , they have comfort road sport springs ,a little soft i thought at first but now after a 1100miles i am used to them and they are awsome for braking and the grip is A1 ,high speed stability is far more confidence inspiring than any other coil overs i have ever used ...all i would say is that a decent arb up front is req to eliminate body roll and the little bit of understeer...i have heard nothing but good things about the KW range ....
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zgoraj napisano je pac cisto moje osebno mnenje. zaradi mene ima lahko kdor koli hoce klavir na stropu. dokler mi ne pade na glavo. jebemti papir za homologacijo ce je roba za dva solda. in turki naj se naprej zvijajo burek in tobak. suste pa naj prepustijo komu drugemu....
lpf